{"id":1393,"date":"2014-01-28T16:49:44","date_gmt":"2014-01-28T16:49:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/flags.abcounties.com\/?p=1393"},"modified":"2024-07-31T15:51:09","modified_gmt":"2024-07-31T15:51:09","slug":"montgomeryshire-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/abcounties.com\/flags\/2014\/01\/28\/montgomeryshire-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Montgomeryshire"},"content":{"rendered":"

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One\u00a0proposed flag for Montgomeryshire is not exactly a novel creation but more\u00a0a novel use of a traditional emblem, being\u00a0a banner of the arms of a locally celebrated seventh century hero named Brochwel Ysgithrog famed for his resistance to the invading Saxons. In the mediaeval period a coat of arms was created for him bearing three white horse heads on a black field.<\/p>\n

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These are said to represent the Saxon white horses, with their heads severed, symbolising his victory over the Saxons at Chester in 564 A.D. The arms borne by the local county council in the twentieth century<\/p>\n

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included a black and white border as a reference to Brochwel\u2019s arms. The proposed flag is therefore a natural and obvious flag for the county to fly. Despite its anciently attributed origins however, there is no long attested record of this emblem being used to represent the county \u2013 the reference is more oblique. It would, however, be a viable contender in any county flag competition.<\/p>\n

An alternative suggestion as a traditional design for deployment as the county flag is a banner of the arms used by the the Mathrafal dynsasty of the\u00a0kingdom of Powys, later Powys Wenwynwyn or Powys Cyfeiliog<\/p>\n

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, which features a red lion rampant against a gold field.<\/p>\n

Before the formal award of arms to the former Montgomeryshire County Council, the body made use of the arms of the old kingdom of Powys as reported in the 1894 Book of Public Arms by Arthur Fox Davies<\/p>\n

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When the council subsequently received formal arms, the\u00a0Mathrafal lion was retained as the one of the charges on the tripartite shield as can be seen above.<\/p>\n

The emblem was later incorporated into the\u00a0badge of the “Denbighshire and Montgomeryshire Joint Fire Service”<\/p>\n

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the lower half being a red lion\u00a0on gold, to represent Montgomeryshire.<\/p>\n

The “Montgomeryshire lion” also appears on the badge of the former local police division<\/p>\n

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and the county Girl Guide troop uses a standard which includes what is described as “the Mongomeryshire lion”.\"Monty<\/a><\/p>\n

The device\u00a0also\u00a0featured on the cover<\/p>\n

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of the publication “The Montgomeryshire Collections”\u00a0produced by the organisation “The Powysland Club”, based in Welshpool, in the county, the above example appearing on\u00a0a 1978 edition. However, interestingly, by 1993 the emblem used by the organisation and appearing on the journal was changed, apparently now incorporating the three horses heads of the Brochwel arms<\/p>\n

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Both ancient arms thus appear to have a\u00a0legitimate claim for use as the county flag of Montgomeryshire although\u00a0it is worth considering that this is the fifth proposed lion flag for a Welsh county and distinctiveness being one of the recognised\u00a0traits of an effective flag, a surfeit of lions will nullify the effectiveness of any one flag, as\u00a0people will likely be hard pressed to distinguish them! On this particular basis\u00a0of being that bit more distinctive whilst still retaining an obvious linkage with the county, the three white horse heads present a more viable option as the county flag of Montgomeryshire. However, if local sentiment favours the ancient armorial banner of the Mathrafal dynasty, then this will outweigh such considerations.<\/p>\n

With thanks to Brady Ells for his research for this post,<\/p>\n

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